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SFA lands historic £60m TV deal



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Published Date: 07 August 2008
ON THE day after Rangers squandered the opportunity to grasp a European windfall, the SFA overcame the difficulties of a torrid economic climate by announcing the most lucrative business deal in their history. The contract with Sky Sports and BBC Scotland for coverage of Scotland's home internationals and the Scottish Cup will be worth upwards of £14million a year – a deal amounting to £60m – eclipsing anything previously secured by the national association.
The agreement will run between 2010 and 2014, a period that will embrace the next two World Cups and the European championship of 2012. The SFA's previous highest earner was the £27m they were paid by International Management Group (IMG) for the right to market the national team's matches between 2006 and 2010.

Under the terms of that contract, IMG would guarantee the SFA the basic sum and, in the event of making a profit beyond that figure, the latter would be paid a share. That has already yielded extra income, thanks largely to being paired with "hot tickets" France and Italy in the qualifying group for the European championship just past.

The new contract, worth between £55m and £60m as a starting point, is similarly structured, bringing the possibility of further revenue in the event of Sky Sports and/or the BBC selling the product globally for sums in excess of the basic payment.

Gordon Smith, the SFA chief executive, was predictably elated by his own organisation's good fortune, while regretful over the elimination of one of his former clubs, Rangers, from the Champions League. The Ibrox side's defeat by Kaunas, he observed, would not help the promotion of the Scottish game in general.

"Obviously, we're delighted with this new television deal," said Smith. "To secure one, at this time of economic difficulties, that is worth more than double our last agreement is excellent news for Scottish football. We invest much of this kind of revenue in the game at grass roots level, which involves putting millions into Scottish clubs, players and coaches in the development of the young.

"Now that we've cemented that level of income as far as six years ahead, we can pre-plan many beneficial schemes, knowing the money is going to be there. I hope people see this for what it is, a sign that Scottish football is on the way up. We've seen remarkable improvement in the national team over the past three years, when they've risen dramatically in the world rankings.

"Our clubs have flown the flag in Europe with distinction, to the extent that Scotland now enjoys a high co-efficient when it comes to seeding in the Champions League and the Uefa Cup. And the contract is similar to the one in which we are presently engaged with IMG, so the chances are, if the Scotland team continues to do well, it will be worth more than the amount at which it is starting off."

While conceding that Rangers' defeat in Lithuania could be perceived as "a blow to our reputation", Smith also sympathised with the Ibrox club over their having to play a vital qualifier at a time of year when they are short of match practice.

"I'm disappointed by what happened for the Scottish game in general," he said. "It never helps your image when something like that happens and I think it is a blow to our reputation. Especially when you remember last season, with three Scottish clubs, Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen, remaining in Europe past the turn of the year for the first time in ages.

"These early qualifiers, especially against opponents who are already a couple of months into their domestic league season, are always very awkward.

"I know I'm widely regarded as an advocate of summer football, but I'm not actually. What I am in favour of is a lengthy winter break. But I have no authority with regard to the scheduling of the professional clubs. That is a matter for the respective Leagues."




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  • Last Updated: 06 August 2008 10:30 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Jwil,

07/08/2008 00:20:00
Not one word about the BBC not supporting free-to- view games for Scotland. Try reading the article in the times. At least its balanced.
2

Jon Bon Jovi,

07/08/2008 00:54:47
"The Ibrox side's defeat by Kaunas, he observed, would not help the promotion of the Scottish game in general."

ehhhh!!!!

Quite the opposite, rangers in europe last season dragged scotland down big-time....

no one liked watching them and scottish football was slated constantly by my non-scottish buddies....
3

Fanling,

Switzerland 07/08/2008 00:56:03
'While conceding that Rangers' defeat in Lithuania could be perceived as "a blow to our reputation", Smith also sympathised with the Ibrox club over their having to play a vital qualifier at a time of year when they are short of match practice.'

Aside from the "shortage of match practice" get-out, Gordon Smith should also ponder why the overpaid super-athletes of Rangers FC routinely fail to blow away clubs of the Kaunas variety. And no pre-match disclaimers from the other Smith should be acknowledged as a foretaste of the imminent disaster they always seem to anticipate. With Rangers you can almost feel the hell to come. Can you imagine clubs like Barcelona, Bayern Munich and AC Milan grumbling to the press about shortage of match practice? Of course not. They are too professional.

Rangers were a wholesale embarrassment on the night. They were totally inept. They never deserved to represent Scotland on the European stage with such a complement of pedestrian players. They have blown it for sure this season in the SPL, and can only dream of a European run in the far distant future. Come in Queen of the South and show them what Scottish football means to Doonhamers.




4

Richardinho,

07/08/2008 01:00:41
Was amazed to read that Walter has spent 9 million quid since the Uefa final. That's not even including all he spent before that.
When I saw the line up against Kaunas, I just thought it looked like a very tired, worn out team, yet it's already had a small fortune spent on it.
God knows why Lafferty was left out after all the money spent on him, and Boyd after all the song and dance Smith made about trying to keep him rather than flogging him when he had the chance.
5

bring them on,

07/08/2008 02:48:14
Glad to see that we have moved on from commenting on the Rangers game.
6

SOFBTRC,

Far, far from Glasgow 07/08/2008 03:55:09
60 million, eh?

Wonder if the money-grabbing ugly sisters will settle for 5% each of that total?

Nah. Didn't think so.

SOFBTRC!
7

Colin P,

07/08/2008 04:22:08
#4 Richard

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you.
At half time, with Miller at 0 goals, Boyd should have come on. Was he even dressed for the game?

We have signed Lafferty, Velicka and Miller and none of them have scored. We have Boyd who scored some 27 goals last year, and he can't get a game.

Incredible!
8

Phil C,

07/08/2008 06:10:03
#5 bto

That won't stop for a while. It was a bad night for Scottish football but a really good tonic for sooooo many Scots!
9

Greens,

07/08/2008 07:16:48
A great night for Scottish football! No televised embarrassment caused by Smith's negativity this season & £10m less in the bank with which to denude the teams with a youth policy. Congratulations to the Jambo 1st team.

GGTTH
10

whateverthename,

07/08/2008 07:41:51
5 bring them on
instead of "bring them on" maybe rangers should bring them off
11

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 07/08/2008 07:46:55
"Smith also sympathised with the Ibrox club over their having to play a vital qualifier at a time of year when they are short of match practice".
So when is the right time of year for Rangers? They dont like it either when they have had plenty of match practice and complain of too many games.
12

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 07/08/2008 07:50:27
"my name is walter" a story of "instant" karma
13

interstellarmince,

outer-space 07/08/2008 08:11:04

So then... the upshot of this collusion is England football games live on BBC Scotland and... ?

Wakey wakey... London Establishment doing you over once again...
14

CHUCKY,

07/08/2008 08:33:34
Seems to me Rangers missed a trick on this occasion.

As I see it the SFA head honcho was wide open for granting an extention to pre-season there.

Oh well, they can concentrate on defending their cups........When do QOS play their European games?
15

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 07/08/2008 08:43:39
It seems this thread is today's choice for hijacking by the forces of darkness known as the Chuckle Brothers internet fanbase, so here goes.

The Kaunus result now becomes the third Rangers disaster I've seen in my lifetime (1-7, League Cup final 1957 and 0-1 Berwick 1967 being the others).

Post 1-7, John Valentine, accepted as the best young Scottish centre half of his time when with Queen's Park, was cast into the outer darkness of the Rangers reserve side, then off-loaded to St Johnstone, with Willie Telfer brought in from St Mirren to steady the ship. Rangers had a trophyless season btw, Hearts won the league, Clyde the Scottish Cup so history will not repeat itself.

Post-Berwick Jim Forrest and George McLean, both of whom could I would suggest out-score Kris Boyd, were cast out - but a kid named Sandy Jardine came in and he didn't do too badly.

Since institutions tend to repeat past errors, will it be taxi for Dailly, or will John Fleck come good?

Let's face it, Scottish football would be a lot less fun without the Chuckle Brothers, even if just one of them is currently providing laughter.
16

bring them on,

07/08/2008 08:51:12
#15

Berwick had a good keeper that day.
17

CHUCKY,

07/08/2008 09:01:49
#16 Kaunus didny need wan.
18

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 09:37:27
The laptops had been hoping that Man City would do to Celtic what Liverpool did to Rearrangerz so as they could take the heat off Walter in this morning's headlines.

Strachan fielded a reserve team that managed a 1v1 draw, Celtic's goal coming from a player yet to make his competative debut.

The laptops were forced to return Walter's flops to the top of the agenda, and they really don't like writing so negatively about Scotland's establishment club.

Without a crumb of quotation, the daily rearranger tells us that Minty has "ordered" Walter to jettison the duds....wouldn't that be the entire squad ?

Cuellar is being praised to the heavens, but after Boumsong, the premiership clubs are now wise to the antics of the laptoployalistas.
19

mot juste,

W.I.M.P. "Walter"InMeltdownPhase !!! 07/08/2008 09:57:31
Scottish Champions Celtic under the stewardship of Wee Gordon Strachan will once again be competing in Europes premier competition the Champions League,making the SPL competition Celtics bread and butter.

Rearrangerz under the leadership and guidance of "Walter",and who were humiliatingly removed from all European competition the other night,now view the SPL as their suckling pig,their pate de frois gras.
The same as Falkirk.


Well done "Walter".
Isn`t it.
20

mot juste,

07/08/2008 10:00:48
The --Smith Feels Heat-- thread was closed about 9.15am after 40 posts.

None of the posts had been red carded,nor did they deserve to, prior to the threads complete closure.



21

bring them on,

07/08/2008 10:03:55
Idee

What happened to the thread?

Did someone lose the place
22

mot juste,

07/08/2008 10:15:22
bto

No one lost the place.

As I said there hudnae even been a red crad for ANY post.

Thread shut closed for no apparant reason.

The Scotsman is beginning to act as ruthlessly as COLP did in closing shut Ibrox last season.

At least COLP had just cause!
23

mot juste,

R.O.T.`r RearrangerzOnThe`run !!! 07/08/2008 10:25:21
bto

I still have accesss to all posts from the smith Feels Heat thread.

When The Scotsman closed it down I went back through each and every post.
Not one post had been red carded.
Not one post deserved to be removed.

I went to contribute another quality post,only to discover the thread had been shut down.

There was no justfication whatsoever for closing that thread.

Unless highlighting "Walters" disastrous path and direction that he is leading Rearrangerz is justification in itself.

Sad.
Isn`t it.
24

bring them on,

07/08/2008 10:31:31
Idee

Maybe the thought the Hearts fans would be lonely all alone on their thread.
25

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

07/08/2008 10:31:54
Is this good news really ?

Fact is that through mismanagement of the highest order. The SFA is skint. It is skint due to rebuilding Hampden unnecessarily in the 90´s and threw 8m away on an ill fated attempt orchestrated by David Taylor at getting EUR0 2008. He was also responsible for recruiting the disaster that was Bertie Vogts which cost the FA millions in wages and redundancy payments and put our national teams prospects back a decade. The man was rewarded with a job at UEFA and that should not go unnoticed. The things some people to to ingratiate themselves to higher more influential bodies.

The bottom line here is that the SFA have renewed the SKY contract to allow some kind of stability for themselves. Gordon Smith 160k a year and were still waiting for a sponsor for the Scottish cup? What´s he being paid for ?

Terry Butcher can hardly walk due to having a new knee and will soon be given another new knee .. yet he is the national coach for a World Cup qualfying campaign which begins in September .. So how did he manage to get a job and is this really the best preparation for our national team ? Do such decisions best serve the nation.

If we were to qualify for major tournaments like we used too and create profits that way, would it allow for a free to view solution for Scotland Old age pensioners who has stood on the terracing at hampden for years? Have been to Wembley often, Germany 74 and Argentina ?

After the SFA´s involvement in extension gate the attendances for Scotlands team will plummet. Rangers exit from Europe might help sustain attendances but the Argentina veto is indicative of a public that´s not to impressed by how the game is being run.

The SKY money is to allow the blazers in the mafia for the mediocre to turn the SFA into a safe home for unemployed ex Rangers employees or devotees. Alex Mc Leish, Walter Smith, Terry Butcher, The Rangers team doctor that PLG had enough of etc.

That is why the nation cannot see their own n
26

Malc.F,

france 07/08/2008 10:32:28
Since we do not seem able to comment on the reports of Rangers and Celtic matches any more I would reluctantly use another post to register my disgust at the Scotsman's mean spirited report on the Celtic-Man City match, Was the rough draft written in blue ink?
27

baroda,

Spain 07/08/2008 10:33:43
I dont care what deal they agreed on the scotland games i wouldnt watch them anyway.
As for the other lot being in the Cl they wont win it any way. All it will do is provide more cash to pay Gravesen,Balde, & Riordan.
There is no getting away from it Rangers were a disgrace over the 2 games in the qualifing round but it shows you the deplorable level of Scottish football.
As for the old potatoe of joining the English league that will never happen as there is no team remotely good enough.
28

dundee8cologne1,

west lothian 07/08/2008 10:33:51
#2 Smith makes a fair point as Rangers and Celtic are usually the only teams that build up our coefficient. Our league has a bad press anyway and whilst it may be stating the obvious, Smith is correct abou the impact when one of our 'big' teams crashes out early. Having said that, I agree with you that I cant recall another cup run by a Scottish team where so many other clubs openly referenced them as one of the worst, 'anti-football' teams they had ever played.
29

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

07/08/2008 10:34:08
That is why the nation cannot see their own national team on free to view television. It has nothing to do with maximising profits and everything to do with maintaining the SFA´s position as main protector of Rangers.

If you dont believe me or the ANIMAL instinct is to label me a rabid tim..then I suggest you ask Craig Levein ?
30

James,,

07/08/2008 10:50:38
#26,

Totally agree. In the course of the report, it even said the match was, "relatively meaningless."

A FRIENDLY!? "Relatively meaningless?"

I'm sure if Champions Celtic had won, it would have been "totally meaningless."
31

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 10:59:28
Just watched the second half of the Champions Reserves v Man City and BTW the early promise shown last season by Paul Caddis was no illusion...this bhoy is looking the part for stardom.

He is beginning to give Strachan a serious headache. Both Aiden and Naka had better be on their toes at all times this season because Caddis right on their shoulders for a starting jersey...this WAS an EPL defence, and Caddis DID tear them to shreads on more than one occassion.

He came in last season as a right back, but its his forward play on the inside right flank where he creates the most danger. Quite honestly, I was stunned quite a few times by the way he managed to pick the ball up and carve out an opening in the most difficult of circumstances against a team with no shortage of quality players.
The jury's verdict is in : Caddis is going to be a star for Champions Celtic.
32

N B,

07/08/2008 11:03:10
All things considered, Rangers exit from Europe before the schools go back may be no bad thing. Was the squad good enough to win the CL? No. Therefore not being involved is no great loss. Many people yap on about the finances lost as a result of not qualifying for the CL, BIG DEAL I say. Celtic win the 2008/09 Dusty Ledger Cup, but unless we see that cash on the park it is the shareholders who will pocket the lolly. How little has changed since the families were in charge at the Piggery.
33

Tynietiger,

07/08/2008 11:04:26
Rangers out of Europe saves us the embarrassment of listening to The Sash, anti pope songs, Rule Britannia and seeing thousands of English (Union) flags flown on behalf of a so called Scottish team. (Same goes for Sellic and tricolurs).
34

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 11:05:12
O'Dea and Cuthbert formed the central defensive partnership , and their lack of pace was exploited by the City forwards a few times.

The only concern is that whilst Caldwell and McManus would read the game better, they aren't any faster.

It's alright for spl business, but in the CL the back 4 will have to sit deep , with the midfield doing most of the defensive work, the back four ready to come in in support.

A high back line and a couple of pacey skillful forwards, and that's what you come up against routinely in the CL, would spell disaster for Celtic.
35

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 11:18:59
Hugh Keevans, writing in the daily rearranger today, informs us that McOURT missed a "glorious chance" to score with his second touch.

If McOURT had stuck that one away, it would have ben a glorious goal , and would have added a zero and a bit more besides to his transfer value at a stroke.

It was a forty yard pass coming in at blistering pace from the right, and McOURT ghosted in at the far post to meet the ball on the volley with his left foot from 12 yards out.

If he had converted that, and BTW although he blasted wide his connection with the ball was just a fraction of a milimetre out, my eyes would have popped out.
36

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 11:42:35
32

Keep scraping.....that barrel isnae empty yet!

As to profits.....if you read the club accounts....shareholders have turned down any dividend pay out...

Usual lies and exagerations to cover your own desperate need to feel better after getting humped by Cowness

You're in no position to discuss finances.....

It is now the 99th of May.....any news on Minty Megoriums Magicland Emporium yet?

Ps. Well done to the Celtic Youth team last night on their 1-1 draw with Man. City.
37

Changed name,

07/08/2008 11:45:01
John Hartson summed up last night,s Celtic game as a "nonentity" with few, if any, highlights to discuss.
38

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 11:48:07
33

It was funny listening to the Rangers fans singing when they were 1-0 up.....

"we're playing a pub team"....was their chorus...

Cue the equaliser....

....silence...and nail biting nerves now kick in....

Cue the winner....

...Raging Rangers Syndrome then kicks in...with venomous booooos....and finger pointing...

Falkirk this Saturday could be an absolute hoot!
39

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 11:52:44
37

And?.....it was our youth/reserve team that played...

Caddis was excellent and will is a terrific player...
McGowan was ok...will be a good squad player....
Cuthburt was sound and solid....
Miller was ok for the time he had....

So it was a fairly uncontentious game but still provided a good insight to what we have coming through.
40

CHUCKY,

07/08/2008 11:54:05
So many positives to take from the friendly last night, Caddis really looks a player, Miller's distribution was very good (unlike our previous Miller) and McGowan was not out of his depth. Cuthbert and O'Dea were solid enough and any lingering doubts about keeping TG and/or Riordan were banished.

It'll be a long hard season and I would definately be using the domestic cups to keep these top quality kids in the picture.

Tommy Burns' legacy is going to be these youngsters taking the club to a higher level.
41

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 11:55:46
37

Fair comment from Hartson but for the eyebrow raising performance of Caddis after he came on in the second half.

But perhaps the outcome of the match is most telling of all : this was 75% a reserve team yet they held a full strength EPL side to a draw .

And a draw was a fair result on the balance of play even though referee Craig Thomson couldn't bring himself to award Celtic an absolute stonewall penalty kick after Caddis was blatantly cut down just as he was getting ready to pull the trigger.

It was only a week ago that rearrangerz first 11 were taken to the cleaners by liverpool.
And three goals came in the second half after Liverpool had brought the kids on.
42

mot juste,

R.O.T.`r RearrangerzOnThe`run !!! 07/08/2008 12:06:21
OK footballers are not paid for their intelligence as such, but you would expect a modicum of grey matter to be displayed when talking plain English.

McCulloch said this........its difficult to take when we have been knocked out of all European competiton before our season has started.

Ehh?...whit.?!!

Hey Lee,Kaunus wiz where your season did start !!

Dear dearie me,nae wonder the Rearrangerz Assembly(assembly ?!#~)and the Rearrangers Supporters Trust are spittin SPL only fixtures for the next year.

Sad.
Isn`t it.
43

bring them on,

07/08/2008 12:06:24
Paulmac

I see you are in your usual good frame of mind, and only the odd wee joke.

Your salt bucket seems full today.
44

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 12:18:01
Hugh McDonald has written a typically fine article in today's herald about where exactly rearrangerz are on the map.

He proposes a recovery plan for Walter and identifies problem areas and how Walter might approach them.

He also points out just how dangerous these times are for rearrangerz. Apparently, Bainochio was given dogs abuse at Kaunus airport by Scotland's Shame on the way back to Glasgow.
It seems that they are turning on the management with no shortage of savagery, and it will only be a matter of time before Walter comes into the cross-hairs if things don't improve quickly.

I think Walter is getting too old for that, and if he becomes the target for vile abuse, I doubt he'd be prepared to endure it for very long.

If Walter gets hounded out, Rearrangerz will be in meltdown and as McDonald observes, there won't be any uncle walter to turn to.
45

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 12:23:55
C'mon BTO......cheer up son.....in a few weeks no one will remember where the fook cowness is....never the result!

Who the fook am I trying to kid....we will have fun with this for months!
46

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 12:26:49
Glad to see NB back on line after a brief hiatus...and as usual his chosen form of defence is attack...pity his team couldnt muster the same notion...Kerching for the Champions ;@)
47

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 12:27:43
Pasq

They can always turn to Jester......

Although I doubt a smile and a joke will be enough to win over the Rearrangers hordes.
48

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 12:31:37
Weather update from Govan.....

Still breezy....with drifting tumbleweed and a mad dog barking...

49

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 12:34:28
It's started !

The laptoployalist campaign to butter up the rearrangerz fans about the impending sale of Cuellar, that is.

Read Thomas Jordan in today's evening times and you can get the jist.
Minty's poodles are getting into full swing, and off course, the sale won't be as a result of elimination in europe, it will simply be that the offer was too good to refuse, and would have gone ahead even had rearrangerz made the champions league.

Aston Villa are reportedly circling, and a number of laptoployalists over the last 24 hours have been referring to Cuellar as a "£10m rated" player.

50

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 12:35:01
24 days left till the transfer window shuts.....

Waht chance Bainocchio pulling a rabbit oot a hat?
51

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 12:35:46
Are reports that tomorrows "Q & A" session at Murray Park is being broadcast live on the Paramount Comedy Channel,subject to an 18 certificate,true?
52

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 12:38:29
Pasq

O'Neil won't touch it!....certainly not at that price!

53

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 12:43:39
Swordy

I hope they have remembered to install the anti-flob screen for the guys on the main table!
54

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 12:44:37
Kevlar undies for all concerned I fear...
55

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 12:46:30
BBC Scotland Sports report...Headlines...Drug Addled Olympic bores yacking on about the Rowing,Badminton,ping-pong etc..Isnt there a BIGGER story to cover this week?
56

Yada,

07/08/2008 12:49:05
mot juste --- is it just possible that the thread you were referring to got pulled because there was (and is) f*** all left to say about a team that is of sod all interest to 95% of the people of Scotland.
In case no-one had noticed this thread is going to go down the same drain because the half-dozen w****rs that have nothing better to do than dribble on about a football game that is OVER, FINISHED, PAST insist on scratching the same little mental plook all bloody day.
57

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 12:50:38
Say what you REALLY mean mate :@)
58

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 12:54:35
Just for the record...The implosion of a major Scottish sporting institution is surely of more consequence than talking up a story about wee burd running around wi a ribbon on a stick....And anyway,last time I looked I had a right to free speech...don't like it? Go play with your train set...
59

Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 07/08/2008 13:07:29
Yet again more petty bickering between the pathetic OF kids. Not good for Scotlands image that Rangers are so rubbish but fingers crossed Queen of the South will do us proud!

The deal is great news and hopefully the SFA will invest it wisely.
60

baroda,

Spain 07/08/2008 13:14:00
I dont see any of the Edinburgh teams doing us proud.
61

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 13:18:41
60. If they gave out prizes for high handed,holier than thou attitudes there would be much silverware in Embra....Don't kid yourselves,guys...I've read YOUR threads and there isnt that much to distinguish between the east and west numpties...
62

Royalty,

Zandvoort 07/08/2008 13:26:39
Im going to save an absolute fortune this season.

Last seasons European run was a heavy outlay for me.

Its the league that matters now & Rangers will come good.

Lets face it, theres not much competition.

63

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 13:43:29
The following questions have been vetted and approved for the big....Q & A...get together the morra....

1. How was yer holiday Mr. Minty?
2. I know the team are pure brilliant an that...but do you also think the pitch is looking no bad fur this time of the year?
3. We agree the books are in great order...but is there any chance we can have cheaper pies at the stadium?
4. Can somebody explain where the bogs are fur the upper tier?
5. When can we have another Q & A session as a think these are just puuuuure magic an that?

More questions will be vetted for discussion...

The whole day will finish off on a happy note when Jester will do a half hour bit of stand up for the specially selected audience.
64

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 14:07:25
Rearrangerz travel to Falkirk on Saturday to begin their fourth consecutive attempt to wrestle the championship out of Celtic's iron grip.

Two managers have been sacked in the process, and the third's future is starting to look increasingly ominous.
65

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 14:20:28
If rearrangerz were to lose at Falkirk this weekend, my guess is that Walter's days will be numbered.
It could be the straw to break the camel's back.

Let's face it, Scotland's Shame loathe and detest Celtic, and having to eat humble pie three seasons on the trot takes its toll on the patience threshold.

But after Kaunus, the rage is reaching boiling point evidenced by the apparently prolonged and appauling abuse Martin Bainochio was subjected to at Kaunas airport. Sir Minty has faced crisis before at ibrox, but he's never been in as tight a spot as he is now.
Banks aren't throwing money around anymore on the strength of a booming property market...that party has stopped, everyone's gone home and the police have been at the door.

Minty can't borrow his way out this time around, and Celtic , if they spend wisely, are poised to move light years ahead of rearrangerz to the point that it could take as much as £20m of investment for rearrangerz to catch up...and possibly even more than that.
66

Molz,

porty 07/08/2008 15:25:56
Rangers going out is not good for Scottish fitba' right enough. But then the embarrasing behavoiur of their fans was bad for the whole society,not only fitba'.
So we dont have to worry about that for another year or so.
67

CHUCKY,

07/08/2008 15:33:20
#65.....I'd say 4 games left before mutual consent point.

Falkirk away
Hearts home
Aberdeen away
then a visit to the Champions in Paradise.

Would the mint sack Wattie after a thumping at Paradise? ........or would his ego prevent such a public capitulation?

Time'll tell.

These uppity Embronians get on yer thrupnies with their high tower rubbish, do they get a H*** O* posting their unwanted rubbish here?
Move along, yer teams are mince.
68

Daillyman,

07/08/2008 15:51:44
So the Gers start the SPL season with 3 out of 4 games away from Ibrox.

Just the luck of the draw.

Last season at this time when CFC faced a similar start tot the season it was a scheduling conspiracy by the SPL.
69

Phil C,

07/08/2008 16:04:24
It seems the Jambos are at last equalling the powers of the OF. Their foaming, rabid 'fans' have managed to get Hearts' comments black-listed by the Hootsmon.
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CHUCKY,

07/08/2008 16:08:11
#68 And you lot were not squealing like stuck pigs at the end of the season about everyone being against you?........Even AFTER your bleating got the season extended. Hahahaha
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mot juste,

07/08/2008 16:09:01
If anyone is deperate to get their fix of comments and posts,if they hurry up they will be able to post on the...Best Recipes.

Todays best recipe is Haggis Bonbon Canape`s.

If you hurry up,you can be the first to comment.

Hmmmm.....wonder why ?
72

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 16:16:08
Chucky

I think there was a brief discussion in the usual rags on the eventual movement of Wattie at Ibrox to an upstairs position with Jolly Jester taking over at the helm in the not to distant future....

In view of the possible implosion that might take place over the next 4 weeks.....I would imagine there will be the usual announcement by Minty with the usual attempt to pass it off as a move that had been agreed sometime back....

But then who could believe a word of it.....

Minty has this strange obsession about not wanting to admit he has sacked a manager?......mutually consented I believe is the phrase...

Wattie blew this oot the water last year when he admitted his sacking the first time round....

Still....the next 4 weeks will be interesting!
73

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 16:17:37
71

Oi....there's nowt wrong with Haggis!
74

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 16:19:48
Brian

"Just the luck of the draw"

Minty should provide that response at the throw pies and Anawers seminar they have lined up at Minty park the morra!
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Daillyman,

07/08/2008 16:21:38
70 Chucky

You never heard me squealing once at the end of last season. I posted numerous times that I felt the season should not be extended. Next.
76

Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 07/08/2008 16:30:18
Aye, it's no great fer our co-efficient but one definate positive as Molz says is that the pathetic union flag waving hooligans won't be around to tarnish Scotlands reputation this season. Even without the rioting they are a total and utter embarrassment to Scotland both home and away.
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Daillyman,

07/08/2008 16:31:09
74 Paul

No one wants to exit Europe at this early hurdle, tics supporters are all to aware of that.

WS should be given time, if things don't go well in the league then address what changes would be best for the club.

It was just a couple of years ago after a famous tic defeat that CFC supporters threads were screaming for the head of WGS, and calling him "not Celtic minded"

Upsets happen in football, what was disgraceful was the seemingly lack of effort from some of the players on the park, and some of the team selections.

Players will be moved out to free up wages, even if those players are sold at a loss, McCulloch, Hendami, Cousin, JCD and I feel Boyd should now go for HIS own good, a terrific goal scorer who WS does not rate.
78

rorie,

alloa 07/08/2008 16:40:17
scottish football would be better off without the two auld glesca hoors,of course it would take a season or two to adjust and settle in, but it would be a far more competetive set up.it would also be a good chance to get rid of the psuedo religious poison that has been spread around the country by this glasgow self interest duo,no clubs would go to the wall as we are led to believe by the glory hunting "supporters" of the "big two".real fans would come back to their clubs and get behind them, no more embarrassing 9 in a row nonsense,the honours would be spread around more evenly and the football would be better and more enjoyable,and by the way where would these two auld glesca hoors go to ply their trade? who wid hae thum?
79

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 16:43:44
Brian

There is a huge...huge difference between Gordon becoming manager and losing his first competitive game after following in the footsteps of Martin O'Neil....who was adored by the fans...

To

Wattie having been manager since January 2007.....and following on from Paul Le Guen....who Rangers fans had grown to dislike....Wattie has had the time to get it right...has spent nearly £20m in doing so....

Wattie has repeatedly refused to play your top scoring striker......why?

Wattie decided not to buy Davis.....when he knew Bazza was kapoot......why?

Instead Wattie buys 3 strikers when you already have 5.....before sorting out the midfield dilemma......why?

I don't think any body could blame the Rangers fans if they turned against him.....

Too many Rangers fans associate Wattie with his previous stewardship which provides them with enough blind faith to ignore what is obvious to everyone else!
80

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 07/08/2008 16:44:04
#68 Daillyman,
So the Gers start the SPL season with 3 out of 4 games away from Ibrox.
Just the luck of the draw.
Last season at this time when CFC faced a similar start tot the season it was a scheduling conspiracy by the SPL.

As I recall if there was any talk of a conspiracy to the start of last season it was that rearangers didn't have to play a top 6 team instead you started the season playing the bottom 6 finishers from the previous season. (flying start anyone?)

To quell any rumors of scheduling didn't the authorities bring in a outside company from your adopted country Canada to make up this seasons schedule? I could be wrong, but I don't think they will be invited back after this got published?

Falkirk v Gers.
Gers v Hearts.
Aberdeen v Gers.
Celtic v Gers.

4 In a row coming your way!
81

rorie,

alloa 07/08/2008 16:47:59
if rangers are away from home it shouldn't be as far for their "fans" to travel.
82

Daillyman,

07/08/2008 16:51:49
80 C

So as I said this year I believe the draw was exactly that, a computerized random draw.

Last year because of who the Gers pulled in may have been a c...... You can't have it both ways.

79 Paul

WS has spent in the region of 20mil in 20 months and also brought in 9 mil from the Hutton sale, an expenditure of 11mil. I prefer to give the manager time and see what happens if things go pear in the SPL after 10 matches then address the situation if needed.
83

Daillyman,

07/08/2008 16:52:37
81

The first correct post I have ever read from you.
84

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 16:52:43
78

Utter pash start to finish!

without Celtic and Rangers....no sky or setanta tv deal...No serious sponsorship...

If Celtic didn't exist....would I go and support another club....nope....

As for this Val Hala of an idea that everybody would be equal and trophies would be shared around on a regular basis.....

Utter B@ll@cks...2 teams will always eventually become more dominant....and therefore monopolise trophies...

Your heid is full of battered shoite and as such your thoughts and ideas as is normal with a supporter of one of the diddy clubs is driven from jealousy....
85

Dons Jimmy,

Aberdeen 07/08/2008 16:56:46
Davie Murray, Andy Cameron, Ian paisley, Jonny Mad Dog Adair, Joey Barton, Mikey 'King of Chavs' Carrol, Genghis Khan, Nick Griffin, Jimmy Calderwood.......... Can you hear me JIMMY CALDERWOOD??? Your boys took one h€ll of a beating.... YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE H€LL OF A BEATING.
86

mot juste,

07/08/2008 17:02:28
Take a dessert spoonful of "Walter", mix with three or four pensioners,one centre forward,a goalie and 6 or seven midfielders/centre halfs,add 1 full pint of ultra bitter lemon and serve up as the most sour lump of puddin you are ever likely to see.

Serve accompanied with savoury Kaunus biscuits.
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paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 17:02:50
82

You can't have it both ways Brian....

You're suggesting the situation with Wattie today is the same as it was with Gordon when he first became manager at Celtic....

It ain't....

Wattie has had 20 months....a season and a half....to get it right....and spent £20 million...

Wattie also followed in the footsteps of Paul Le Guen...a manager who was disliked by most Rangers fans...

Gordon lost his 1st competitive game after taking over from Martin O'Neil......who was worshiped...

2 totally different scenario's.....

How much more time than 20 months does Wattie need....the next 4 weeks will be interesting!

We could all buy the ticket if this was his first season back at Rangers....it's not....this will now be the 3rd season he has taken part in.
88

paulmac,

surrey 07/08/2008 17:05:59
Mote

Are they any good for Keystone cop style pie fights?
89

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 17:10:49
Paul ..Wait til tomorrow at Murray Park...Be like TISWAS all over again..except for Sally in her sussies..GROAAN!
90

2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 17:12:49
The net spend figure of any manager is only of significance as regards the financial state of the club.

But mangers have to be judged on the gross-spend figure : there's basically over £20m of personnel picking up a wage at ibrox that Walter brought to the club.

Walter has been entrusted with £20m to invest in the squad and he alone has to accept responsibility for how that money was spent.

The net-spend figure doesn't get Walter off the hook one iota.
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2Pasquenade ,

07/08/2008 17:19:28
On the subject of Rearrangerz first four matches in the spl, it's a t0ss up between Falkirk away and Hearts at home as regards which is the 'easiest' of the bunch.

A defeat at Falkirk on Saturday would put the rearrangerz on course for played 4 lost 4.
92

Swordsman,

Dublin 07/08/2008 17:21:04
Rorie..Cant read your posts without the strains of the Hovis advert (Dvorak,New World Syphony,Culture Vultures)ringing in my ears...

"Eh,Ooop! Ah remember when it were reet grand to follow our association football XI every saturday after 10 hours down t' pit and 4 hours chimney sweeping..'course we coundn't go 'ome as there were Rickets and Diptheria there...Still,we 'ad a grand time of it..Jumpers for goalposts,mam makin' bubble and squeak and me da' giving her a reet goin' over on a saturday neet...'appy days ah can tell thee...nae nasty OF fans to ruin uor working class idyll......

Aye Right!!
93

mot juste,

W.I.M.P. "Walter"InMeltdownPhase !!! 07/08/2008 17:24:12
You have got to admit,Rearrangerz fanz have been very kind to "Walter".

Rearrangerz under "Walters" tutelage have been deliberately serving up demoralising anti-football for a year and a half.

Rearrangerz are a worse team now than this time last year and "Walter" has put Rearrangerz F.C. through the purgatory of their most embarrassing performance(s) in Rearrangerz` footballing history.

Why?

Why are Rearrangerz fanz so forgiving,indeed in many many quarters "Walter" is found to be praised.

Why?

There can only be one answer why Rearrangerz fanz are so willing to suffer in relative silence as they have.

Cant there.
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mot juste,

07/08/2008 17:35:34
#88

Yes,ideal:)

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rorie,

alloa 07/08/2008 17:38:09
92, mind your own business,and stick to potato harvesting,this is a scottish league and we can do without advice from paddies.